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>> they're being given a choice between an economy which has been fantastic for them. labor has done really badly. they're saying, the current situation is great for us. but now we have two choices, between great and even better. are and given the choice, they'll take even better. >> and you talk about liberal pieties or whatever, the hatred of unions. i think that people underestimate, don't get -- and i've encountered this in my reporting, how visceral, almost dogmatic, almost religious and ideological, how fervently that belief is and how common that is among people who make a ton of money. >> it's one of the few times that you find a vague semblance of ideology in these people. because they're very practical, most of the time. whatever works in terms of making money is what they'll all choose. but you're right, sometimes even when you show them the numbers and say, listen, recognizing unions, you can be more profitable overall, they don't like that. >> felix salmon, reuters finance blogger, who will be live blogging in january, you should check that out, thanks for
>> they're being given a choice between an economy which has been fantastic for them. labor has done really badly. they're saying, the current situation is great for us. but now we have two choices, between great and even better. are and given the choice, they'll take even better. >> and you talk about liberal pieties or whatever, the hatred of unions. i think that people underestimate, don't get -- and i've encountered this in my reporting, how visceral, almost dogmatic, almost...
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. >> deal or no deal, i don't think it matters this is just a dog and pony show, the economy is in trouble. lou: thank you very much. appreciate it. on that happy note. >> thank you, lou. lou: what the bleep just happened. thank you. for us that is it good night from new york. neil: influential tea partier jim demint is leaving senate captain, and john boehner removing tea party party from all leadership posts first indicated it. stick a fork in him, the republican party as we know it is dead. i am neil cavuto, allow me to be so blunt to say, what else can you say about a light taken out of the party, republicans who 1 proudly school their tax drowned over decades, seeding that and then some over weeks, only real debate among the grand old party is how much to hike taxes, not if. i did not know they lost their backbone. starting 800 billion in tax hikes to match the president, shouldn't surprise anyone whether we doubled that to $1.6 trillion, that will become the new starts point for the president. new york times and front page story praising john boehner's grip to the party here, appears
. >> deal or no deal, i don't think it matters this is just a dog and pony show, the economy is in trouble. lou: thank you very much. appreciate it. on that happy note. >> thank you, lou. lou: what the bleep just happened. thank you. for us that is it good night from new york. neil: influential tea partier jim demint is leaving senate captain, and john boehner removing tea party party from all leadership posts first indicated it. stick a fork in him, the republican party as we know...
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economy. -- >> what is the way to do that and not hurt the u.s. economy? >> we need really, really fundamental tax reform. we also need entitlement reform, and we also need to use cost-benefit analysis. what shocked me about what the president put out is the cost- benefit analysis that they put out. they were proposing things that were twice the costs of their own benefits. i am sorry. if you run a government like that, you will go bankrupt. the rest of it is an exercise. we may as well go off the cliff or not. it really does not matter. if it is not january 1, it is not going to be too long from now before we start taking a sharp pencil to things. >> i sympathize with what larry is saying. what i am proposing, and what we are actually debating here is not to solve all of our problems ad infinitum into the future. there should be to solve this over the next decade so we get to a stable place. that is very doable in the context of the debate we are having now. if we get $3 trillion and debate the arithmetic, i think that is using reasonable assumptions abou
economy. -- >> what is the way to do that and not hurt the u.s. economy? >> we need really, really fundamental tax reform. we also need entitlement reform, and we also need to use cost-benefit analysis. what shocked me about what the president put out is the cost- benefit analysis that they put out. they were proposing things that were twice the costs of their own benefits. i am sorry. if you run a government like that, you will go bankrupt. the rest of it is an exercise. we may as...
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that raising taxes on the rich with would hurt the economy and the economy is fragile. the numbers though that the economy is not fragile and that would improve the economy's leverage. he's still doing so many public events. he is trying to use that public pressure to sort of force the republicans to cut a deal. >> doing this public stuff but at the same time having these private talks with the speaker and david axelrod talked about what the president and speaker might be doing behind closed doors and the reasoning behind it. let's listen. >> both the president and the speaker are very fluent in the basic numbers. they have been living with them for some time now. so as i said, i don't think that there's a lot of mystery about this. the politics has to be traverse. they've got to get through the rocky shoals of grover norquist. >> does that make it easier to keep politics out of it? >> i think it helps for the two men to make a deal that might work for all sides. i sound like i'm a broken record for myself but i'm still trying to find out if both parties are trying to f
that raising taxes on the rich with would hurt the economy and the economy is fragile. the numbers though that the economy is not fragile and that would improve the economy's leverage. he's still doing so many public events. he is trying to use that public pressure to sort of force the republicans to cut a deal. >> doing this public stuff but at the same time having these private talks with the speaker and david axelrod talked about what the president and speaker might be doing behind...
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a lot of positive figures out there in the economy. does a second term present a great opportunity for him to follow through on wall street reform? because there are some in the community that think he was a disappointment in that regard. >> first of all about the economy, my state right after the auto rescue, my state's unemployment rate was 10.6%. now it's down to 6.9%. that's because of a lot of things. partly trade enforcement that you've talked about. and partly the auto rescue. all those things together. i think the president knows that we need to continue to make sure the regulations are strong. part of that is done by his administration and part of it is by congress. we know he will work with senator merkley, senator schumer, people who have been involved on these issues. and i'm optimistic we move forward. >> thank you for joining us tonight. >>> coming up, senator mitch mcconnell rails against reform, but john mccain doesn't agree. michigan senator debbie stabenow on filibuster reform. >>> later senator john kerry delivers an
a lot of positive figures out there in the economy. does a second term present a great opportunity for him to follow through on wall street reform? because there are some in the community that think he was a disappointment in that regard. >> first of all about the economy, my state right after the auto rescue, my state's unemployment rate was 10.6%. now it's down to 6.9%. that's because of a lot of things. partly trade enforcement that you've talked about. and partly the auto rescue. all...
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charles: the economy is scary, but this is even scarier. not the zombies, but the government spending taxpayer money on zombies the boys use capital one venture miles for their annual football trip. that's double miles you can actually use. tragically, their ddy got sacked bblackouts. but 's our tradition! that's rouing the card holder. but with the capital one venture card you get double miles you can actually use. [ cheering ] any flight, anytime. the scoreboard doesn't lie. what's in your wallet? hut! i have me on my fantasy team. what's in your wallet? hut! [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ] itoesn't. stop ptending. only flood insurance covers floods. visit floodsmart.gov/pretend to learn your risk. charles: paying for security? it could make us more financially insecure. senator tom coburn saying that homeland security has spent $35 billion in grants to make america safer. but it still can't measure if we are actuall
charles: the economy is scary, but this is even scarier. not the zombies, but the government spending taxpayer money on zombies the boys use capital one venture miles for their annual football trip. that's double miles you can actually use. tragically, their ddy got sacked bblackouts. but 's our tradition! that's rouing the card holder. but with the capital one venture card you get double miles you can actually use. [ cheering ] any flight, anytime. the scoreboard doesn't lie. what's in your...
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this exacts the economy. the uncertainty is creating havoc with our economy and our states. >> well, the bipartisan delegation of governors wrapped up their meetings at the white house a few hourgz ago a. they plan to meet with republican leaders this afternoon and have made one thing clear. they're not taking sides in this one. >> our focus today was not to endorse a specific plan nor to dismiss a specific plan but rather to point out as gary mentioned as governors we think it's important we have a seat at the table. >> joining us now is two governors that attended that meeting, chairman of the national governors association jack merkel as well as oklahoma's republican governor the group's vice chair. thaw for joining us. governor fallon, i'll start off with you. we heard scott walker in there. why not take a side here? >> well, we have 50 different states. we have governors that have different political philosophies. what we're trying to find is common ground, some collaboration between the national governo
this exacts the economy. the uncertainty is creating havoc with our economy and our states. >> well, the bipartisan delegation of governors wrapped up their meetings at the white house a few hourgz ago a. they plan to meet with republican leaders this afternoon and have made one thing clear. they're not taking sides in this one. >> our focus today was not to endorse a specific plan nor to dismiss a specific plan but rather to point out as gary mentioned as governors we think it's...
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that is what the economy needed. i think our problem is we didn't get enough. >> eliot: it's fascinating you articulated this way. judge poser was an iconic voice within the chicago school of economic supply. he went through the same transformation saying different circumstances call for different responses. you don't disavow of word of margenal rates. >> that's exactly right. i don't understand this idea of cocky cutter economics where you simply do the same thing regardless of circumstances. you analyze the data, look at the economy, you come up with policies that are appropriate. >> eliot: now, you have been a rather harsh critic of the way the second president bush ran the economy basically saying he disa vowed principles and put in place massive spending without caring about deficits at all. you were there. what happened as you saw this and did you push back? >> oh, yes i wrote a book called imposter, president bush destroyed the economy. which got me fired from my think tank job. it was contrary to conservative
that is what the economy needed. i think our problem is we didn't get enough. >> eliot: it's fascinating you articulated this way. judge poser was an iconic voice within the chicago school of economic supply. he went through the same transformation saying different circumstances call for different responses. you don't disavow of word of margenal rates. >> that's exactly right. i don't understand this idea of cocky cutter economics where you simply do the same thing regardless of...
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. >> i think it underestimates the potential impact on the economy and the very people we're trying to protect would be the most affected if that happened. so i don't think it's a good idea at all to go off the fiscal cliff. >> first of all, two questions, would you be willing to work through the christmas holiday to make sure this gets done? >> absolutely. >> second question, what about foregoing any pay until you solve this problem? >> well, the problem with that is there are 535 of us and i'm willing to solve the problem and compromise. i don't want to be penalized because of somebody else. >> fair enough. congressman connolly, we thank you for being here. i take it that means you want to keep collecting your paycheck. >> i want to get something done for the american people and in congress of two years the people get to throw us out of office if we didn't do our job. >> thank you, fair enough. glad you got that cough under control. tomorrow maryland senator ben cardin will be here and talk about fiscal cliff as well at 7:00. you can send in questions to mailbag@wusa9.com or leave a
. >> i think it underestimates the potential impact on the economy and the very people we're trying to protect would be the most affected if that happened. so i don't think it's a good idea at all to go off the fiscal cliff. >> first of all, two questions, would you be willing to work through the christmas holiday to make sure this gets done? >> absolutely. >> second question, what about foregoing any pay until you solve this problem? >> well, the problem with that...
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it's important to go out and shop, important to stimulate the economy. if we're going to pick a store, let's go to costco which is known for treating its workers better than basically any general retailer in the country. i've been covering labor for a few years for "the new york times" and a few years ago, several people were saying, you should take a look at costco. they really do remarkable job in how they treat their workers. so i went out to their headquarters in washington. i spent a day with that gentleman next to biden, mr. sinegal, co-founder of the company. his father was a steelworker. he grew up in pittsburgh. i figured he was sympathetic to unions. he grew up catholic. he said, no, no, that's not why i treat our workers well. we're not the little sisters of the poor. he said it's good business. he said treating workers well mean they work hard for you, there's far less turnover. the typical costco worker who's been there more than a year stays on average 17 years. costco is known for having far less theft than most retailers. and he says when
it's important to go out and shop, important to stimulate the economy. if we're going to pick a store, let's go to costco which is known for treating its workers better than basically any general retailer in the country. i've been covering labor for a few years for "the new york times" and a few years ago, several people were saying, you should take a look at costco. they really do remarkable job in how they treat their workers. so i went out to their headquarters in washington. i...
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the world economy doesn't know. my question is this. would the republican party like to go over the cliff hanging onto that 2% rich people and say that's why they did it? can they live with themselves if they do it? >> they have -- in some ways the politics for boehner becomes easier. i don't like to call it a cliff. after they go down the slope. >> why? >> because if nothing happens between now and the oerchd the year, all the tax cuts, puff, they disappear. you come back the first week in january and you pass a bill and then the tee partiers, boehner can make the argument to them if twhanlt to be reasonable. now you're voting for a tax cut. not for everyone but for 98%. before that happens the tea party people will say we're voting to raise taxes on the research. if you're voting to let it happen on its own -- >> do you people buy that story? they know what the mechanics of this thing are. >> let me finish one second. the tea partiers have to worry, some of them,ing being challenged from the right if they vote for anything resembling
the world economy doesn't know. my question is this. would the republican party like to go over the cliff hanging onto that 2% rich people and say that's why they did it? can they live with themselves if they do it? >> they have -- in some ways the politics for boehner becomes easier. i don't like to call it a cliff. after they go down the slope. >> why? >> because if nothing happens between now and the oerchd the year, all the tax cuts, puff, they disappear. you come back the...
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going to get there because the only thing that stands in the way of an agreement that's good for the economy is if a group of republicans decide they're going to block and increase in tax rates on the wealthiest americans. i think it's unlikely they will choose to do, that of course, because there's so much at stake. >> schieffer: in all seriousness, i'm told mitch mcconnell laughed when you handed in this proposal. is that true? >> they're in a hard position, bob. they really are in a difficult position. and they're going to have to figure out their politics of what they do next and they're trying to figure that out right now. we're going to work very hard at this and we're going to keep talking to each other. and, again, i think we have a very good chance for coming together on an agreement that not just protects 98% of americans from a tax increase and protects the economy from deeply damaging upfront spending cuts and protects the med from leaving us vulnerable to, you know, periodic threats of defaults by politicians, i think we can do better than that and do something good for the long
going to get there because the only thing that stands in the way of an agreement that's good for the economy is if a group of republicans decide they're going to block and increase in tax rates on the wealthiest americans. i think it's unlikely they will choose to do, that of course, because there's so much at stake. >> schieffer: in all seriousness, i'm told mitch mcconnell laughed when you handed in this proposal. is that true? >> they're in a hard position, bob. they really are...
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this is our economy. we all want the economy to get better and americans to have more opportunities at jobs. this agreement should come sooner rather than later because just the threat of the fiscal cliff is already hurting our economy. now listen, i believe that raising tax rates hurts our economy, hurts the prospects for more jobs in our country. and i realize the president may disagree, but the fact is if there's another way to get revenue from upper income americans that doesn't hurt our economy, then why wouldn't we consider it? >> what if we go over the cliff. doesn't the president hold all the cards then? can't he say, all right, everybody taxes have increased. i'm offering 98% a tax cut of $2,000 a year. you are the party of lower taxes. are you going to refuse to cut people's tacks? >> nobody wants to go over the cliff. that's why the day after the election i tried to speed this process up by making the concession to put revenues on the table. it's unfortunate that the white house has spent three
this is our economy. we all want the economy to get better and americans to have more opportunities at jobs. this agreement should come sooner rather than later because just the threat of the fiscal cliff is already hurting our economy. now listen, i believe that raising tax rates hurts our economy, hurts the prospects for more jobs in our country. and i realize the president may disagree, but the fact is if there's another way to get revenue from upper income americans that doesn't hurt our...
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we can't have a productive economy that's in service of wall street. the hyper trading is only bad for creating those markets. i think we should have a very small fractional transaction tax that would then go into help them pay for the bailout and actually, it's not good to be doing all that hyper trading. >> i think you should be secretary treasure you are. thanks for coming on the show. >> fox news chairman flexing his political muscle, caught on then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...allstate safe driving bonus check? what is that? so weird, right? my agent, tom, said... [ voice of dennis ] ...only allstate sends you a bonus check for every six months you're accident-free... ...but i'm a woman. maybe it's a misprint. does it look like a misprint? ok. what i was trying... [ voice of dennis ] silence. ♪ ♪ ask an allstate agent about the safe driving bonus check. are you in good hands? [ male announcer ] red lobster's crabfest ends soon. hurry in and try five succulent entrees like our tender snow crab paired with savory garlic shrimp. jus
we can't have a productive economy that's in service of wall street. the hyper trading is only bad for creating those markets. i think we should have a very small fractional transaction tax that would then go into help them pay for the bailout and actually, it's not good to be doing all that hyper trading. >> i think you should be secretary treasure you are. thanks for coming on the show. >> fox news chairman flexing his political muscle, caught on then how'd i get this... [ voice...
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economy and they all know it. there is no country in the world for the people in charge do not understand that they benefit from a strong, dependable, secure u.s. economy and energy is the key, i think. >> christine, can i just say something here? i think one program we have done in securing american pricing energy and is something of note that many of us have seen. i think it speaks to several key messages. just as we did in 2005, they're just as relevant today when we were importing 60% vs. 40% and continuing to go down. they also fall along what senator blunt said house well. but you see from when we have the oil crisis, there is no such thing as energy independence. some fear we define the problem as energy independence and it is all about imported oil. but then we solve a problem. we have been saying we needed to end our dependence on foreign oil, but the truth is we have a dependence on oil and any thing that happens anywhere in the world affects us here. if we miss diagnose the problem, we come up with the
economy and they all know it. there is no country in the world for the people in charge do not understand that they benefit from a strong, dependable, secure u.s. economy and energy is the key, i think. >> christine, can i just say something here? i think one program we have done in securing american pricing energy and is something of note that many of us have seen. i think it speaks to several key messages. just as we did in 2005, they're just as relevant today when we were importing 60%...
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this could be a nice stimulus for the economy. john boehner saying he has seen no substantive progress on the fiscal cliff talks in the last couple weeks. what compromises need to be made? sheila bair, being a former fdic chair, telling us 4 ways wall street can help out and it is not all good news for investors. liz: did you see the cover of the wall street journal? fed stimulus like gillian 2013. we talked about this the second broke yesterday halfway through the 3:00 p.m. show. the man who wrote the article, wall street journal's chief economic correspondent and chief head head to lend us live. dave: before that is of we will tell you what drove the market with the data download. stocks extending yesterday's gains finishing a volatile session higher with the dow, s&p and nasdaq trading above the 200 day moving average for the first time in three weeks. telecom and health care were the top performing sectors. fewer americans filing first-time applications for unemployment benefits as hurricane sandy had the labor market and cont
this could be a nice stimulus for the economy. john boehner saying he has seen no substantive progress on the fiscal cliff talks in the last couple weeks. what compromises need to be made? sheila bair, being a former fdic chair, telling us 4 ways wall street can help out and it is not all good news for investors. liz: did you see the cover of the wall street journal? fed stimulus like gillian 2013. we talked about this the second broke yesterday halfway through the 3:00 p.m. show. the man who...
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how is that going to help the economy? >> it won't help the economy. they're going to put this new 3.8% sur fax on to investors to pay for obama care. as you mentioned, it cost more than $100 billion. something to keep in mind here is the total tax hike cost for obama care is $500 billion. americans will see more than half of that take place on january 1st. >> that's on top of whatever they decide to do on this fiscal cliff business. katie, the next biggest one, $87 billion is an increase in the payroll tax. .9%, 2.9 to 3.8%, small business busy and self-employed. how does that promote growth. they're going to be hiring less and there are going to be fewer employees. >> don't they talk about this? why don't they do the add-ones that you're doing on the obama care taxes? >> i'm actually not sure about this. i'm pretty confused about why the romney campaign didn't hit the obama care tax argument harder on the campaign trail because the supreme court ruled it a tax for good reason. it had gone through the numbers here on your show. this hit small business
how is that going to help the economy? >> it won't help the economy. they're going to put this new 3.8% sur fax on to investors to pay for obama care. as you mentioned, it cost more than $100 billion. something to keep in mind here is the total tax hike cost for obama care is $500 billion. americans will see more than half of that take place on january 1st. >> that's on top of whatever they decide to do on this fiscal cliff business. katie, the next biggest one, $87 billion is an...
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chars: the economy is scary, but this is even scarier. not the zombies, but the government spending taxpayer government spending taxpayer money on 5-hbut some people wondered oveabout caeine.imes. the executive director of the center for science in the public interest said, "overdoing caffeine alone is actually pretty difficult to do. someone would have to make an effort to consume 40 or so 200-mg caffeine tablets." or... about this much 5-hour energy... in a single day. we recommend... not more than two per day. yeah, when we first came out with the product... you know, i made sure of one thing. if my family wasn't going to use it... if it wasn't good enough for my family if it wasn't safe for my family... i'm not gonna put it out there. i take it almost every day. and twicwhen i play tennis. this is our criteria that we have to be safe... if we're notilling to do it ourselves... we're not asking anybody else to do it. we're not gonna sell it. so, that's our approach to safety... that is a higher standard you can get. charles: paying for
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the idea we're at a fiscal cliff where the economy stops on january 1st is completely misleading. it's a squeeze. everyone will feel it, but then you're in a position where everyone can vote to cut taxes. that might be more politically feasible. >> i like that perspective. you help us take out some of the fear mongering we see, a lot of the media is perpetuating. that's why we're doing the fiscal follies and the wheel of fortune. fiscal fiesta. the media is doing all this fear mongering and you get a lot out of washington. this is a self-created drama, of course. these cliff negotiations. but the markets are remaining relatively calm and steady. why are investors being so cool and above the fray when everybody else is running around with their heads cut off? >> everybody thinks what you see on tv with the duelling positions and we refuse to negotiate, the market sees it for what it is, which is theater. everyone is staking out the position trying to suck up to the base. there will be behind the scenes caving at some point, and if there isn't, if everyone just says absolutely not,
the idea we're at a fiscal cliff where the economy stops on january 1st is completely misleading. it's a squeeze. everyone will feel it, but then you're in a position where everyone can vote to cut taxes. that might be more politically feasible. >> i like that perspective. you help us take out some of the fear mongering we see, a lot of the media is perpetuating. that's why we're doing the fiscal follies and the wheel of fortune. fiscal fiesta. the media is doing all this fear mongering...
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enough to get back to a healthy economy. they cut the estimate to how much we are growing. people are not making enough money and therefore, not spending enough money and businesses are not hiring enough people. we need to be talking about growth. the problem in the country is an economic growth problem. the deficit, nobody wants there to be a deficit, but that's not the pressing need we've got as a nation. growing the economy, frankly, is the only way we have gotten rid of red ink in the past. when americans are better off, they pay more in taxes. the government can pay for the usual things and pay down the debt. president clinton, the surplus, he got that partly from raising revenue. raising taxes. but also he did it in a way that grew the economy and the nation prospered and the debt became no big deal and then the debt was gone and the debt clocks that were supposed to be scary got shut off. that was because of prioritizing economic growth and being willing to raise revenues. look when we started growing again after the
enough to get back to a healthy economy. they cut the estimate to how much we are growing. people are not making enough money and therefore, not spending enough money and businesses are not hiring enough people. we need to be talking about growth. the problem in the country is an economic growth problem. the deficit, nobody wants there to be a deficit, but that's not the pressing need we've got as a nation. growing the economy, frankly, is the only way we have gotten rid of red ink in the past....
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what they really want to know is the economy going to grow or not. if you're increasing taxes on dividend, you get less capital and dividends and then less growth for the economy and less revenue for the government. >> well, a lot of people worry about the many years that japan has been in a slow growth environment, but they've kept interest rates very low in japan, but the problem is, government is too big. that's why japan has not been able to start growing again. and this is the path that the u.s. is certainly on if we don't change that dynamic. >> paul: kim, is there any recognition about this in washington or is it all -- i mean, do you hear any of this discussion or do they really believe, certainly, the white house and the treasury, that tax rates like this don't matter, at that ultimately-- >> no, they do to a degree. if you talk to the officials iran up, come on, so we're going to raise the rates, what is fascinating to put it in the bigger context of the debate about tax revenue, the economists have the static view, you've got x-amounts of
what they really want to know is the economy going to grow or not. if you're increasing taxes on dividend, you get less capital and dividends and then less growth for the economy and less revenue for the government. >> well, a lot of people worry about the many years that japan has been in a slow growth environment, but they've kept interest rates very low in japan, but the problem is, government is too big. that's why japan has not been able to start growing again. and this is the path...
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not a pro on the economy. i think we need to invest and there's a sweet spot comes up in infrastructure in particular that offers a real opportunity. >> jay, my question. as far as when you talk about that sweet spot, if we're going to start seeing inflation through the roof, i think a lot of people expect it if we come it to a deal with the fiscal cliff and get economic growth and get people investing, inflation will go up. so that is going to be a problem for american families. like you said, there are places that business can succeed. is it government-infused money to get there, or is it going to be actual, real, american dollars in there? >> susan, that's really the opportunity. first of all, i don't think inflation is a concern for years. in order for inflation to be a concern it it has to get into the wage cycle. we're far from that. the needs are clear. ports, roads, transport rail and plus protection against extreme weather. on the other side demand. the demand for infrastructure investments isle comin
not a pro on the economy. i think we need to invest and there's a sweet spot comes up in infrastructure in particular that offers a real opportunity. >> jay, my question. as far as when you talk about that sweet spot, if we're going to start seeing inflation through the roof, i think a lot of people expect it if we come it to a deal with the fiscal cliff and get economic growth and get people investing, inflation will go up. so that is going to be a problem for american families. like you...
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. >> nice little economy you have there. nice little economy you have there. it would be a shame it if anything happened to it. that's not a threat. look, we have to start looking at what happens if we do, in fact, go over the so-called cliff, and what happens is, you know, one thing is we take a huge bite out of the deficit. we do it in a crude may, and there would be immediate attempts to fix it and fine-tune it and take some back. some would probably get through. if you actually want to look at it from a policy standpoint, it may not be the worst possible option to just go over the cliff and then put back in the tax cuts and the spending increases or renewals that you'd like to put back in. so, you know, worst things could happen. >> well, listen, alan simpson and i go back to his sound from the "today" show, eugene. he said anyone talking about it in that way, there's stupidity involved. he didn't say, eugene, you better not because you're my buddy, but the reality is even our first read team says this notion or all of this media hype about going off the c
. >> nice little economy you have there. nice little economy you have there. it would be a shame it if anything happened to it. that's not a threat. look, we have to start looking at what happens if we do, in fact, go over the so-called cliff, and what happens is, you know, one thing is we take a huge bite out of the deficit. we do it in a crude may, and there would be immediate attempts to fix it and fine-tune it and take some back. some would probably get through. if you actually want...
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that would be good for stimulating the economy. but the big thing is hit there needs to be a balanced plan. we need more revenue and we need less spending at the federal level. what is good for california is not good for virginia and what's good for virginia is not good for maryland. maybe we need to focus on reducing the federal government overview. been there would not be as much spending or taxes needed. then let the states deal with the taxes they need to take care of their citizens. host: robert, milwaukee, democratic caller. caller: i would like to say that the republican party, not all of them, i think it's just the tea party, they are destroying the republican party. when i saw senator dole in his wheelchair yesterday and military disabled individuals throughout the world, when they did not pass the ada treaty, which was signed in 1990 by president george h. w. bush and then it continued on with president bush and clinton and everyone else thereafter, when they did that, now i understand they are just not the party that any
that would be good for stimulating the economy. but the big thing is hit there needs to be a balanced plan. we need more revenue and we need less spending at the federal level. what is good for california is not good for virginia and what's good for virginia is not good for maryland. maybe we need to focus on reducing the federal government overview. been there would not be as much spending or taxes needed. then let the states deal with the taxes they need to take care of their citizens. host:...
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just can't seem to get the economy going. lots of efforts and a ton of help from the state of chicken. why can't you get this back on track? >> like every urban area in the country, we are suffering in the foreclosure. we live and die by property taxes and sales taxes and they are all coming in shorter than anticipated. basically because the property values in detroit. it is starting to pick up in michigan. we just need a little bit more time in order to get our financial house in order. in order to grow our economy. gerri: i have heard that before. we need more time to get our fiscal house in order. wouldn't it make more sense? i know that you are probably playing all kinds of different groups. all kinds of different political groups who want to have their voice heard. wouldn't it make more sense to come in and have the state on this thing -- the thing that we will fix this thing and get it done. >> unfortunately, they can't unilaterally change them. so the financial emergency manager coming into detroit, setting us back a y
just can't seem to get the economy going. lots of efforts and a ton of help from the state of chicken. why can't you get this back on track? >> like every urban area in the country, we are suffering in the foreclosure. we live and die by property taxes and sales taxes and they are all coming in shorter than anticipated. basically because the property values in detroit. it is starting to pick up in michigan. we just need a little bit more time in order to get our financial house in order....
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the president replied breaks for middle class important for families and economy. if top rates don't go up, danger middle-class deductions get hit. the gop is holding middle-class taxes hostage i'm not. joining me is msnbc policy analyst and columnist for "the washington post" ezra klein. it is great to have you. we need your help today. >> you know what makes me sad about that twitter discussion. >> what's that? >> those were 140 character bites more substantive than almost any of the tax discussions in the media or in washington. they were beating us in 140 characters. >> the president's twitter -- you have to -- in too many abbreviations but i'm getting ahead of myself here. let's talk about those substantive tweets which is to say, i want to talk about the closing of loopholes. i spoke with grover norquist about this magic math that the republicans are doing. let's say they put closing loopholes and deductions on the table. the issue is whether anybody is going to go for this. the deductions that are there are very popular. the ones that would get the most reve
the president replied breaks for middle class important for families and economy. if top rates don't go up, danger middle-class deductions get hit. the gop is holding middle-class taxes hostage i'm not. joining me is msnbc policy analyst and columnist for "the washington post" ezra klein. it is great to have you. we need your help today. >> you know what makes me sad about that twitter discussion. >> what's that? >> those were 140 character bites more substantive...
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>> increasing tax rates draws money away from our economy that needs to be invested in our economy to put the american people back to work. it's the wrong approach. we're willing to put revenues on the table, but revenues that come from closing loopholes, getting rid of special interest deductions, and not raising rates. we think it's better for the economy. pure and simple. secondly, the american people expect us to find common ground, to work together, and to resolve this. and frankly, sooner is better than later. >> you've been doing this for a long time. the past 24 hours, is this the necessary public posturing that needs to go on or is there a serious stalemate right now? >> there's a stalemate. let's not kid ourselves. i'm not trying to make this more difficult. if you've watched me in the last three weeks, i've been very guarded because i don't want to make it harder for me or the president or members of both parties to be able to find common ground. but when -- when i come out the day after the election and make it clear that republicans will put revenue on the table, i took a
>> increasing tax rates draws money away from our economy that needs to be invested in our economy to put the american people back to work. it's the wrong approach. we're willing to put revenues on the table, but revenues that come from closing loopholes, getting rid of special interest deductions, and not raising rates. we think it's better for the economy. pure and simple. secondly, the american people expect us to find common ground, to work together, and to resolve this. and frankly,...
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it has done nothing to take our economy into a better shape. it was the bush tax cuts and the wars that drove us into this huge deficit that we have now. not the republicans' entitlements for this country and then we have neglected this country and the people of this country. we could have created jobs 10 times over. you have vets that are going to be coming back here, and where are the jobs for them? we have focused so much on these wars we got quagmired into, obama has been trying to get us out of them for the last four years. all the republicans have done for the last four years is say no, no, no to any kind of -- and obama has tried to push through bills to cut taxes for job creators, fo. host: for small businesses? caller: yes, for small businesses. host: here is reaction from senator lindsey gramm. he says this -- a republican from new jersey, go ahead. caller: i am calling in reference to this fiscal cliff. at this point, all the seniors are already in trouble. they are not going to get but a little increase. congress will automatically
it has done nothing to take our economy into a better shape. it was the bush tax cuts and the wars that drove us into this huge deficit that we have now. not the republicans' entitlements for this country and then we have neglected this country and the people of this country. we could have created jobs 10 times over. you have vets that are going to be coming back here, and where are the jobs for them? we have focused so much on these wars we got quagmired into, obama has been trying to get us...
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economy was hotter than first thought this summer. in the newest data on the gross domestic product, the economy grew in the third quarter at its fastest pace of the year. the revised report said the economy grew at a 2.7% clip. that's well above the previously reported 2% growth. adding fuel was restocking inventories, which is not expected to continue. higher federal government spending and stronger u.s. exports also helped. the impact super-storm sandy has had on the job market seems to be dissipating. 23,000 fewer americans filed for first-time unemployment benefits during thanksgiving week compared to a week earlier. the total was 393,000. it had jumped to over 400,000 in the weeks following the storm. still, we saw just modest gains on wall street today-- the dow rose 36 points, the nasdaq was up 20, and the s&p 500 added six. >> tom: the roster of companies announcing special one-time paydays for their shareholders continued growing today. taxes on stock dividends are currently set at 15%. but with no deal on the fiscal cliff,
economy was hotter than first thought this summer. in the newest data on the gross domestic product, the economy grew in the third quarter at its fastest pace of the year. the revised report said the economy grew at a 2.7% clip. that's well above the previously reported 2% growth. adding fuel was restocking inventories, which is not expected to continue. higher federal government spending and stronger u.s. exports also helped. the impact super-storm sandy has had on the job market seems to be...
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i know it's in the best interest of our economy and the world. everyone is looking to the united states for leadership and this president has exerted so much leadership, we need to continue that. it's not one party benefiting over another. it's for all americans to benefit for our economy to repair itself and for us to get on with taking care of the people that we represent. >> now, john boehner, e.j., some reports say he's been receiving a lot of is support from his caucus. others are saying that some of those are still holding a lot of strength and they've got to watch their back that they are not undermined and given candidates in primaries against them as they go forward. what is the state of the republican party and how will that impact these discussions? >> well, i think two things are true at the same time. the tea party conservatives haven't gone away. some of them lost but most of them got re-elected and so they are going to put pressure on boehner. the talk show host, particularly rush limbaugh, are going to be out there talking negativ
i know it's in the best interest of our economy and the world. everyone is looking to the united states for leadership and this president has exerted so much leadership, we need to continue that. it's not one party benefiting over another. it's for all americans to benefit for our economy to repair itself and for us to get on with taking care of the people that we represent. >> now, john boehner, e.j., some reports say he's been receiving a lot of is support from his caucus. others are...
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this could push the american economy off of a fiscal cliff, am i missing something here? can it be such a bad thing. not really said the cbo. if congress extents current policy, the debt and deficit will increase slowing the economy and dramatically increasing interest costs. because of the deal congress and the president made last year it be result in across the board budget reductions, still there will be no decreases in social security, medicare and veteran's benefits. defense spending would take a big hit, but because of a windown in afghanistan some military leaders are asking for less than congress is willing to shell out. from 1990 to 1999 defense spending decreased by 1% a year. this weakened military is nonsense. jim we have like what 27,000 times to blow up the country with the next amount of nukes. >> and we still have massive armies in europe protecting them from a massive soviet union. >> yeah. >> korea is another issue -- we do need people there. >> stephanie: right, but he points out who is behind all of this fiscal cliff cage rattling. the rich and their f
this could push the american economy off of a fiscal cliff, am i missing something here? can it be such a bad thing. not really said the cbo. if congress extents current policy, the debt and deficit will increase slowing the economy and dramatically increasing interest costs. because of the deal congress and the president made last year it be result in across the board budget reductions, still there will be no decreases in social security, medicare and veteran's benefits. defense spending would...
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. >> wherever our trades negotiation the economy comes to life. norfolk-suffolk, one line, infinite possibilities. >> additional corporate funding is provided by boeing. additional funding is provided by the anenburg foundation, the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. once again, live from washington, moderator gwen ifill. gwen: good evening. perhaps you took a break for the holidays. perhaps you gave thanks that the election was ofrlte then you dialed back in this week and discovered, no, we have apparently just entered a new phase in a political year that never ended. two big stories this week -- the impending fiscal cliff and the washington debates over who will succeed hillary clinton as secretary of state. first to the fiscal cliff. at the end of the year the buescher ra tax cuts will expire and the first wave of $1.2 trillion in spending cuts is scheduled to kick in. c.e.o.'s and economists alike are worried this will send the economy spiraling back into recession. th
. >> wherever our trades negotiation the economy comes to life. norfolk-suffolk, one line, infinite possibilities. >> additional corporate funding is provided by boeing. additional funding is provided by the anenburg foundation, the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. once again, live from washington, moderator gwen ifill. gwen: good evening. perhaps you took a break for the holidays. perhaps you gave thanks...
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that's a greater drain on the economy. it takes their money and spending power out of the economy, puts it into health care. however, though, i do think there should be some further adjustments on eligibility. i do not believe that i should be able to get the same kind of benefits as, say, you know, a retired school teacher. i should have to pay a greater co pay. the threshold before i got any benefits should be there. also, my children, hopefully, if they are successful, i think we have a responsibility to take care of our parents too if we can. the government needs to be helping people who can't help themselves, that are going to have difficulty doing that. >> i'm glad you made this argument because this is the argument that you hear pete peterson make who's funding a lot of the groups who are talking about attacking the debtor the deficit and you hear mitch mcconnell and you hear some republicans and democrats make it. well, look, progressives, you care about redistribution and you care about all of these things, equali
that's a greater drain on the economy. it takes their money and spending power out of the economy, puts it into health care. however, though, i do think there should be some further adjustments on eligibility. i do not believe that i should be able to get the same kind of benefits as, say, you know, a retired school teacher. i should have to pay a greater co pay. the threshold before i got any benefits should be there. also, my children, hopefully, if they are successful, i think we have a...
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and it would be good for the economy. dave: don't mean to pouu water and your idea because i agree with you it would be a great idea to have a tax holiday we have it ministrations people want from the chief economic adviser of the president on down with the administration and they say no way they are going to do this. would give the any optimism it might be done? >> people need revenue. this is positive for revenue. the money sits over cease and the u.s. treasury gets none of it. if you declare this tax holiday the money produces revenue in nd the u.s.. the change of administration at some point. dave: are you hearing anything about this? we ask the administration specifically about this, they say we won't let it happen. >> that is what we heard. they are not going to let it happen but it would be great if they did because of what has already been pointed out. we need to spur this economy and of the fiscal cliff developed and small-businesses our hits we have to have growth somewhere and that could be a way of doing it. >
and it would be good for the economy. dave: don't mean to pouu water and your idea because i agree with you it would be a great idea to have a tax holiday we have it ministrations people want from the chief economic adviser of the president on down with the administration and they say no way they are going to do this. would give the any optimism it might be done? >> people need revenue. this is positive for revenue. the money sits over cease and the u.s. treasury gets none of it. if you...